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  Toppled Tower

  by Skimmer in

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  (headline) toppled tower.

  (dateline) october 2029, brooklyn, new york; associated internet media news service.

  after a century and a half of preaching and publishing, the wtbts (watchtower bible and tract society) has closed its doors.. the group was started in the 1870s with most of its doomsday doctrines borrowed from the second adventists, another american-born religion of the 19th century.

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  When Jesus said that the tribulation would be cut short on account of the chosen ones, he apparently had in mind the occasion in November of 66 when the Romans advanced on the city and then mysteriously withdrew. That began the tribulation period which was cut short by the withdrawl. When the Christians fled they no doubt encountered many hardships during that interim. Plus, apparently, civil stife erupted in Jerusalem after the Romans retreated. So when they returned in 70 it was really just the consumation of the tribulation that had begun in 66. / You Know
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  Any Xtians want to answer this for me please?

  by uncle_onion in

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  i have been reading a bit of thomas paine.

  paine lived in the 17th century and was an agnostic.

  i have many points that i want to share with you and i thought that this would be a good start.

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  So here are the verses in question. What do you think?

  I think the answer to that problem is easy to find. Dueteronomy 17:14-15 foretold that the Israelites would eventually ask for a king when they got settled into the Promised Land. Moses even gave instructions on who to select as a king and certain laws that applied specifically to the king. Since Moses had this advance knowledge, it is only reasonable that in his other writings he would call the things that are not as though they were, the same as Jehovah often does. / You Know
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  Toppled Tower

  by Skimmer in

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  (headline) toppled tower.

  (dateline) october 2029, brooklyn, new york; associated internet media news service.

  after a century and a half of preaching and publishing, the wtbts (watchtower bible and tract society) has closed its doors.. the group was started in the 1870s with most of its doomsday doctrines borrowed from the second adventists, another american-born religion of the 19th century.

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  So let me get this straight. The great tribulation is going to last at least 2 1/2 years.

  At least.

  Middle East nations will engage in war with nations capable of a nuclear strike (Russia? Israel?)

  Sure. That's already happening in Israel. A regional war is pretty much inevitable.

  The government has suspended free markets and the media is all but shut down.

  Yes. Of course. Obviously the ponzi pyramids known as the free markets would be the first thing to go in a crash.

  Gorbachez becomes chairman of the North American Federation and his primary concern is with jailing, reconverting, or killing Jehovah's Witnesses (MILLIONS of them)?

  Well, the Gorby thing might not come about. He's just the most recognized connection between the old Soviet era and the New World Order. As far as genocide, sure, it happens all the time. It's happening now in various places in Africa.

  Gotta give you credit for creativity, Bob.

  Thanks. It's not uncommon for ficticious scenarios to actually become reality. / You Know
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  The Man With the Big Nose

  by TMS in

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  no offense intended for the anointed ones on this board, but ive always compared such professed ones to martin jensen, who professed nothing for himself except that he wasnt good for much.. this iowa corn farmer became a jw in the 40s, was promptly divorced by his wife, and moved to the southern tip of texas, the end of the world.

  by default he became the presiding overseer of the english unit, although he never gave a public talk.

  there were many unsuccessful attempts over the years to replace him with a more suitable shepherd.

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  Thanks for sharing that story. It reminds me of my tutelage under Elson Aucion down in Houston in the early 80's. He was also of the anointed remnant, and was one of the only truly selfless people I have ever known. He was an old Cajun from Lou-ze-an.' Totally unassuming; disheveled; same ear-to-ear grin. He used to go downtown to the courthouse and shuffle around amidst all the flurry of activity and place books with laywers and judges and folks that were waiting to be sentenced; sometimes over a hundred books a month. He used to bring homeless people from the streets of downtown Houston and put them up in his place. / You Know
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  ARENT WE ALL A BIT BITTER?

  by josephus in

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  i cant help but think some of you guys are just tooooo angry for your past hurts.. weve all got terrible stories which can make us cry, but whats the motivation for such bitterness ?.

  some people search out pervets, seemingly to lay these scumbags and their faults at the societys door.. others try to use thier bad times as an excuse to rubbish the entire religion.. i am not saying that jws are great, or that the society is perfect or undeserving of punishment.. but why are we not trying to even up the good points of the religion.. no smoking, no drugs, no abortion, on and on, and on.. and then try to remember the good times you all had at the meetings.

  the laughs and the help you gave, and received.

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  The Scriptures say that wicked ones are perverts from the womb and that they are like venomous serpents "that will not listen to the voice of charmers, though someone wise is binding them with spells." That describes many apostates who are simply insane with venom and rage against mom and dad and the Watchtower Society. True, some of those seduced by apostasy are guileless ones, but most seem to be the rabid species. / You Know
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  You Know Wrong Re US Recession.

  by Englishman in

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  this, today, in the times, london:.

  slowdown turns out to be the recession that never was.

  economic view by anatole kaletsky .

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  The Fed has been throwing everything but the kitchen sink into the markets to keep them from collapse, but read the quarterly warnings that are coming out now if you want an idea about what's really going on. The bottom has fallen out of some sectors, particularly telecom and chips. Nortel lost 19 bilion last quarter. That's just the beginning. / You Know

  yearhttp://www.msnbc.com/news/595340.asp?0si=-&cp1=1
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  Toppled Tower

  by Skimmer in

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  (headline) toppled tower.

  (dateline) october 2029, brooklyn, new york; associated internet media news service.

  after a century and a half of preaching and publishing, the wtbts (watchtower bible and tract society) has closed its doors.. the group was started in the 1870s with most of its doomsday doctrines borrowed from the second adventists, another american-born religion of the 19th century.

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  A little later on you might read this headline.

  GORBACHEV ISSUES ORDER FOR IMMEDIATE ARREST OF ALL JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

  February 3, 2004

  The Chairman of the North American Federation, Mikhail Gorbachev, reissued an order for the immediate arrest of all of Jehovah's Witnesses. The General Secretary of the United Nations said that the pestiferous cult had largely been exterminated throughout much of the empire but that the underground work was still largely uncontained in the former United States where the cult had originated back in the 1870's. With the closure of the Watchtower Society in the aftermath of the Third World War, officials thought that the controversial religion was finished. Particularly after security forces under the UN enforced the closure of all churches, mosques, and synagogues, and what was once known as Kingdom Halls, all religions where thought to have been eradicated. In the last several months however the magazine known as Gideon's Sword has been circulating in great numbers. It is believed to have the same publishers as the Watchtower magazine once had.

  UN officials have been fuming over the audacity of the cult to defy official ban by publishing inflammatory religious materials. An unnamed official of the North American Federation, speaking on condition of anonimity, said that all members of the ruling party each received flyers in the middle of the night on January 15th, stating that Christ was going to hold them personally responsible for the several billion souls that have perished in the last few years due to the genocidal policies that were needed to bring over- population under control. To date, according to the latest reports, over one million of Jehovah's Witnesses have been incarcerated or executed. Millions more have been reformed and re-educated and been welcomed back into the New World Order that is free from the barbaric relics of religion. The empire is now concentrating their efforts on identifying and arresting the remaining few hundred who are said to be of the elite "anointed." Gorbachev's security administration has enlisted the help of former members of the cult who have already assisted in fingering several thousand leaders who claim to be of this mythical anointed class. Since they are deemed irreformable by most experts, those claiming anointed status are now shot on sight to save the expense of re-education.

  The UN's zero tolerance for religious fanaticism has worked with success on all cult activity---except Jehovah's Witnesses. If you know the whereabouts of any member of this cult, the Federation is offering a 100 Bancor reward for each one turned over to security police. In the case of any cult member known to profess to be of the anointed the Federation is offering a 1,000 Bancor bounty paid in cash. Gorbachev's generous offer also was issued with a stern warning that anyone harboring a JW fugitive will be dealt with severely, but that a two week grace period would be extended to those who may turn in cult members voluntarily. Also, anyone possessing copies of Gideon's Sword is required by law to turn over such materials to the proper authorities.

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  The Name Jehovah

  by ruffian in

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  please can someone shed light on the claim that when the bible was originaly written it had the name jehovah in it over 7000 times but it was changed because of superstition?

  how do you dispute it?

  exactly where did they get that crazy version of their bible anyway?

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  I will agree the NWT is a consistent translation, it's a consistently bad and unscholarly translation. Robert, remember,
  translation is not about word for word, but translating ideas.

  That's where translators get into trouble in assuming that they know the intent of the writer. / You Know
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  Toppled Tower

  by Skimmer in

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  (headline) toppled tower.

  (dateline) october 2029, brooklyn, new york; associated internet media news service.

  after a century and a half of preaching and publishing, the wtbts (watchtower bible and tract society) has closed its doors.. the group was started in the 1870s with most of its doomsday doctrines borrowed from the second adventists, another american-born religion of the 19th century.

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  A more likely headline might read:

  WATCHTOWER TOPPLES IN AFTERMATH OF NUCLEAR FINANCIAL MELTDOWN

  October 21, 2001: Associated Press

  The report today out of Brooklyn, New York, is that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is temporarily suspending the publication of the well know Watchtower and AWAKE! magazines. The Watchtower's press release stated that it was the latest victim of the savage and ongoing financial collapse that has rocked the globe in the weeks since the Middle East nuclear conflagration that obliterated Iran, Iraq, and Syria from the map. The Watchtower, originally established in 1879, has been continuously published for the last 122 years. The last few weeks however, because of the disruption of transportation due to $200 per gallon fuel costs have prohibited nearly all regular deliveries of non essential items. The Watchtower spokesmen stated that it was no longer possible for them to procure paper and food for Bethel workers in sufficient quantities to carry on operations in the face of the hyperinflation that has forced government supervised rationing of basic raw materials and energy. The dollar's crash has also forced the closure of all but a handful of the nation's newspapers and periodicals. Officials for the religious publishing agency could not be reached for further comment.

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  You Know's Seared Conscience

  by Seeker in

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  [moving this to its own thread so as to avoid hijacking the original thread to a new topic.].

  when i pointed out how you know was associating with apostates by being here, as the society has pointed out, he responded:.

  my conscience doesn't bother me.

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  You Know, of course its about you sweetie.

  Yes, I suppose your right. / You Know